Welcome to Episode 20 of the Digital Guardian Podcast! On this episode our hosts Will Gragido and Chris Brook chat with Kai Roer, co-founder and CEO of CLTRe, a Norwegian security culture research company, about building a security culture, whether or not there’s a way to measure success when it comes to security cultures, and how human factors, like gender and attitudes, can shape risk.

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Highlights from this episode include:

• 00:42 - Kai on his background
• 02:14 - Will asks Kai what he thinks is the most important thing to establish a security oriented culture
• 04:50 - Kai gives some insight around how gender can play a part in risky behavior online
• 11:23 - Chris asks Kai if there's a way to measure the benefits of a security culture
• 21:08 - Kai's advice for CISOs and CIOs in wake of the Equifax breach
• 28:50 - Are security professionals learning from their mistakes?
• 40:47 - What are three things an individual could do to truly have a security-infused culture?

Intro/outro music: "Groovy Baby" by Jason Shaw, licensed under CC BY 3.0 US

Previously on the Digital Guardian Podcast

• Episode 19: Brian Honan on How to Prepare for GDPR
• Episode 18: Christopher "Tophs" Elisan on Malware Trends
• Episode 17: Ron Gula on the Evolution of the Security Industry
• Episode 16: End of the Year Extravaganza Gabfest
• More